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this is part of the story of the 2012 election and maybe the never several elections. sam wang had an accurate forecasting model. he sent us a cartoon rather than a chart. he weighed in on the attacks being launched as people like us who are using data to talk about the election. it says quote, breaking, to surprise a sun dit the best system for determining which of two things is wiser. we posted these charts and a bunch of others. i'll tweet a link to them. that does it for tonight. and now it is time for the last word. have a good night. >> the house of representatives. has known for over a year that it has a monday night deadline for avoiding the fiscal cliff. so when are they going to start working on that? sunday night. >> stalemate gridlock joorks this is what the holidays look like. >> there is so much manure around here. >> this isn't school house rock. >> the fiscal cliff. whatever. >> there is barely 00 hours. >> the last minute was before christmas. >> what is going on here? is. >> how come there is no sense of urgency. >> the entire house coming back sunday night. >> ho
in the general election with the latinos, who he got blown out and provided a huge margin in the swing states. >> that is a good point, my point is, of course, the anonymous video operator, who captured the 47%, which is why we happen to have the tape. why it happened to be ready. now, the best move of 2012. what was the best move of 2012? >> this is really hard, because some part of me as a political junky thinks the best move is the crazy thing. and for that, i would give it to mitt romney actually moving across the stage and grabbing rick perry, this kind of physical debate style he also had that revealed him to be crazy and not driven by the same things that most humans are driven by. but sort of the competitive work force bought. but i think at end of the day we keep going back to the 47% -- >> it is everything. >> the release of that. and the timing of that changed the contours of the race, forever. >> and we don't really know who is responsible for that timing. krystal, the best move. >> the best move, goes to the point about immigration, the president, when he gave a press conference
to commu communicate with their elected representatives and let those elected representatives know that the people want to see a deal that is fair to the working and middle class people. that's what the president is saying. i think the president is correct to do so. and i think that the -- you know, that senator reid has been really clear. we should be there working hard to get a fair bargain. and i'm glad the president is basically turning up the temperature. >> see, that's what i read, melissa. i think that one was to update the public. but another is to say if they play passed the deadline, you get in touch with your senator because i'm going to have them call the roll. >> well, so, part of it is about that public pressure. but the other part of it, when the president calls on speaker boehner to do that, what he's saying is speaker boehner, put the good of the country before your job. the majority is all of the democrats and a few republicans, enough to get it through. but boehner, as a speaker, does not want to bring anything to the house floor for a vote that does not have a m
have a base. and the purists are in control of the primary elections and you wind up with a house that doesn't agree with compromise. any time boehner gets too close to some kind of compromise that they don't like, they are standing there with knives ready to kind of oust him and put somebody else in there. >> she's absolutely right. that idea of ideological purism. you're starting to see this. you're starting to reference the give up debate. they don't want any change, even with 20 babies dead in newtown. they want no new laws. we really have almost no laws restricting guns at all. but they want no new laws, no new change. so they move from the party wealthy, now to the party of glocks. they say don't want people to have the right to bear arms, but they want to have people have the right to bear killing machines that can kill people with 20, 30, 40 round clips. this is not big ten politics. almost all of these policies are insulting some large group of people. >> which is why they lost the election. >> they have a very small coalition. >> they don't even have the reign. but when
, i guarantee you no network will go live with that. and if this guy, who was actually elected to represent 12 million members of the afl-cio today, no one will go live to him either. and so what did this man have to say today? this man who got all of this attention. this man who is the ceo of a $200 million business that plays with the dues money of 4 million people, most of whom disagree with this man on some of the issues he cares about most. >> now, we must speak. for the safety of our nation's children. no one, nobody has addressed the most important pressing and immediate question we face. how do we protect our children right now? starting today. in a way that we know works. >> and then he suggested something that you cannot do right now starting today. put a police officer in every school in america. that would require hiring at least 132,133 new police officers. now just based on the median salary for police officers in america, that would cost $6.7 billion a year. there is not a town or city or state in america that has extra money lying around today to hire extra poli
. here's how mitt romney explained why he lost to president obama just days after the election. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who worked with his mother and to persuade his father to seek the presidency. if he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. too bad he never told newt gingrich that. joining me now, msnbc's joy reed. i'm on the verge of feeling sorry for them, trying to come up with these crazy reasons about why he lost. and now they want to pretend that this guy who lived his whole life in order to run for president didn't really want to run f
heard a lot of bonn, abou the tea party. the tea party did not exist in this election. it was a non fctor. why in the world would there be so much concern in the republican party about the tea party. why was there an idea that you're better off today than you were four years ago and pick 2008 as the year, he baseline, and it was a lousy year. in point of fact, just about everybody is. what o you make? very quickly. >> your immediate question, yes, we were better off than the depths of being in a whole. president clinton explained the argument that we were climbing t. by that time election day, the percentage of people is of the country going in their right correction,saw the economy improving, higher than has been, ronald reagan when he was reelected. lou: i don't have the time. >> he was there. lou: this is the -- why did he call -- mixing his old boss. why did he not call first governor chris christie who gave him the photo op, four and half hours and a big hug there was persuasive to just about 15 percent of the voters. should that not have been his first document. >> probably di
irregularities in the presidential election. on the radio show she said voter suppression was in full force in many states all over this country.s ar the first lady cited no specifics and prompted judicial watch to iss the fina following statement. mrs. obama's exhibitions of minority vote suppression or racially divisi and show a dangerous disregard for the troops. we are aware of no evidence of actual voter suppression.r if she has some issues to disclose. by the way, we have not heard from the justice department on this issue at all. given his history that we certainly would have if there waslth any incident of voter suppression. our next guest defense the tough voter id law say it is a paramount important that we protect the integrity of the process and make sure voter irregularities and voter fraud is eliminating. joining us now, attorney general of south carolina, great to have you with us.at first, your reaction to what the first lady had to sy. >> i obviously disagree with the first lady.with in every state i looked at, georgia, indiana are two states, section five, one is not a sec
's very clear now, mr. president, that the speaker's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3rd. the house is not even here. he's told me he'll give them two days to get back here, 48 hours, not two days, 48 hours. they don't even have enough of the leadership here to meet to talk about it. they've done it with conference calls. people are spread all over this country because the speaker is basically waiting for january 3rd. now, the president campaigned on raising taxes on people making more than $250 thou,000 a year. the bush tax cut will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about three million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was response to something that the speaker gave them himself but i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they are going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. the house, we hear so ofte
away from the movement three months before the presidential election. not exactly what armey promised us. >> instead of a hostile takeover as it was by an inside job by a few entrepreneuentrepreneurs, lt an outside job by all of america. >> this is what freedom works and the tea party looked like. before the midterm election in 2010. they tried hard to look like a grassroots movement, polls show 27% supported the tea party movement back then. even americans who didn't support it, thought the tea party was good for the system. but over the last two years, the tea party has lost its luster, it's dropped 6% of its supporters, 30% say they're opposed to the movement. just last week one republican implied the tea party and freedom works were among the wing nuts who caused the embarrassing failure of plan b. >> i want to be clear, the democrats have their wing nuts too, but in our conference, yeah, there are people that respond. club for growth, heritage action, freedom works. >> this morning, the new york times wrote, the tea party's clout is diminished, it will have to turn to narrower is
hold this vote as a score on whether to support them or oppose them in the last election they got very scared and they said we'll vote against the party leadership. >> that could have emboldened them. >> so the speaker is trying to punish them and those that were the outliars as you were describing here. that didn't work and they started to work against them and the question will be what will work? >> it is not clear that there is anything that will work other than as bill points out, having their constituents not support that type of behavior that sort of -- i like to call the hell no caucus. you can't get these guys to yes. if their constituents get to the point that they're angry, then maybe they should start voting with the party. and it's not just speaker john boehner. he was not the one sort of leading the rabble of the one leading it, he did serve on the panel and he wasn't personally the force behind that. can the speaker ignore these groups because based on what we're seeing so far they're working against him. >> he can't ignore them and what the president has to do is simply
for tax increases, reversing massive pay cut from medicare doctors, and elections of millions of americans to avoid paying the alternative minimum tax. an increase in the debt ceiling is not part of the discussion. that is significant development for house republicans who won any increase in the borrowing limit it accompanied by an equal amount in spending cuts taking the debt ceiling of the table making it much easier for the scaled-down version to be negotiated. from here senate leaders will try to secure an agreement by sunday morning. if so, democrats and republicans will try to sell its house and senate members. if they can do that the voting begins. there is some progress report this evening, though there are no guarantees. congress will act to resolve this. tom: this sounds a little bit like bob woodward's book to by bob woodward's book when he talked about the debt ceiling fight back in 2011. mcconnell, from the way i read it, mcconnell and reid took it away from the president and said , let us to work our own deal by ourselves, kind of cutting him out of the negotiations. >> that'
with re-election? >> well, we really felt a little embarrassed that the president went there with the cpi. that's the cost of living and adjusting. because with all of this debate if you take the poorest of the poor people, those that are living on social security and believe they should be the target, and knowing you're negotiating with someone that's trying to protect the top 2% of the people, it's kind of hard for just rational people to go along with that. and of course under no circumstances can a lot of people understand $250,000. the president kicked it up to $400,000. and boehner said go to the devil, it should be a million dollars. and so we hope at some point the president's going to realize that he's not dealing with people that are sincerely dealing with him and get back to what he campaigned for. >> well, are the republicans at all concerned that the nation must look on them protecting the interests of the super wealthy and those with deep pockets and big spending, protecting them at all costs, especially at the risk of hurting the working poor and the middle class? are they
of these house republicans were elected with more than 60% of the vote and their constituents don't want them to compromise. >> senator lindsey graham was "meet the press this morning. >> we are one law away from solving this problem. this problem runs deep and wide. i live in south carolina and chuck lives in new york. i understand how he was brought up. maybe he tries to understand how i was rabrought up. people where i live i have been christmas shopping have been coming up to me, please don't let the government take my guns away. >> how realistic do you think that is? >> chuck is my boss. anything chuck says absolutely 100%. >> who said there wasn't politics on the show today? >> it's a rhetorical question because president obama himself has mentioned on the streets of chicago you need one set of gun rules and in wyoming maybe it is something else. i think we have seen that kind of regionalization of laws. connecticut had an assault weapons ban that didn't prevent this tragedy from happening and didn't outlaw the kind of gun you would want to be outlawed for that kind of tragedy. i don't
and they know obama won the election and what they don't want is to have their fingerprints on it and if speaker boehner put on the floor something that would pass almost exclusively with democratic votes. >> right. >> i do not think there would be a revolt again. st speaker boehner because his members know he can't stop it and they'd be in a position where they can vote no and maintain their purity. i actually think the speaker is trying to be a constructive partner and he's just got a significant element in his caucus that will not vote for any new revenue. >> some might argue he's seen the revolt from the tea party section and constituency of the caucus right now. >> congressman, peter welch, thank you for stopping by. >> tomorrow we'll get another perspective from marcia blac blackburn, stick around for that. >> the only way to keep a monster from killing our kids is to invest in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >>> all right. we heard that a little bit earlier. three more first graders will be laid to rest today in conne
they're riding on a high horse. unions had a good election in 2012 in november. now they want pay back and one politicians in high places, not just the white house but in congress and the state legislaturures that will back tm in these demands. politics enwrapped in this but it's a danrous situation becausnot only could it hurt the economy, but also when you industries you were mentioning that are union dominated, thing about the ones that have the heaviest concentration of unions. auto companies, steel mills, postal service. what do they have in common? they're not productive, they're not making mey. but this is a dangerous game and the onlyay they can succeed is the politic route. >> neil: all very reliant on the ports as well. quickly, about a half minute. people are asking oba to step? in. can he do anything. his national labor relation board has intervened in a lot of cases so yes. the white house could intervene. they're the ones who elected the president. this is an ongoing story and a dangerous situation and we don't know what the outcome will be but it's a damn shame to come r
legislatures do more. the easy answer is a mythology has developed about the ability of the nra to kick elected officials out of office that is almost entirely untrue but is totally devastating to the work we're trying to do. this is a moment when we can draw attention to that. what happened over a period of decades is that there were power struggles within the organization and finally, early in the 1990s, their then high ranking official finally sort of said what a lot of folks in the nra had felt for a long time which is we should not be talking about gun policy issues as matters of protecting the right to go out and hunt or protecting yourself. this ultimately is about the right of free people to hold guns wherever they want because eventually the government might make a list, check it twice and come and take them away. ever since then, you've seen the organization not as the membership level but at the leadership level become more radicalized. after they won the supreme court case identifying a right to own a gun in your home for self-defense, the question i think for them was well, what do
ma markey throwing his hat into the ring for kerry's senate seat. a special election would be held early this summer. markey a 66-year-old democrat is the first prominent candidate to declare for the race. >>> mom and pop shops across the country bracing for a labor fight that could cripple businesses. more on the key workers that could walk off the job coming up. consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. so, whether it's 10 years' of life's sunny days... or... the occasional stormy one... trust goes a long way. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. your doctor will say get smart about your weight. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to h
or 150 democrats. that's what -- that's what our constituents think they are electing us to do, go work in a bipartisan basis. but because of the rules of the house, speaker boehner just keeps saying i'm ignoring the democrats. i'm going to try to put together a plan that will appeal just to republicans. and that's where he's -- that's where he is running into this brick wall. >> all right. thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. >>> here's one take on the fiscal cliff. john boehner's animal house. we are bogey to talk to "the washington post" writer who says in boehner's house the animals are rampaging. what's that mean? we will have an answer for you in the next half hour. >>> nasty weather is lingering just before christmas. aaa predicts 93 million of us will be traveling long distances over the holidays. that includes those that are flying. with a hello to you. how is it looking out there? not too bad in terms of traffic behind you. >> that's exactly right. good afternoon. it isn't too bad. here chilly but sunny and no problems to report in atlanta. most major airports throug
to give in a whole lot more because he won the election and he ran on a platform of increasing taxes on those making $250,000 or more. chuck schumer addressed this issue earlier today. take a listen. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for the republicans, but the president ran on that platform, $250,000. no tax increases to people below but taxes for people above. he won 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: so again there is senator chuck schumer. so certainly still big topic of conversation despite the fact that everyone is now on recess. alex, yesterday we spoke to some folks who said this is really weighing on them as they enter the holiday season, as they do their christmas shopping, the uncertainty in washington kind of passing a cloud over their holiday. as for president obama, this is a working vacation, but he's clearly also relaxing quite a bit as well. he played a game of golf yesterday, went to dinner with the first lady and some friends. today, alex, partisan bickering will be put aside when many members of congress
it is a pretty good choice. he won the election. he gets to choose. confirmed pretty readily? represents a sort of mainstream of american foreign policy, a little bit less for me, but not as far left as the first joist. lou: interesting, john mccain and others came out with really unreserved support for senator kerry. let's turn, if we may, to the failure in benghazi. and this report looks to me, i no there are varying views on this. and other whitewash, it seems. >>nd the misses the point. we know what happened before and during periods grew up some allies, cover-ups. to me with the important thing is, what happened afterwards, which is nothing. then never hunted down, retaliated, responded. look at what happened to the original september 11th. 1998, attacks on u.s. embassies in east africa and in 2000 attack on the u.s.s. cole, we did not respond. we beefed up security at the embassy, change the rules of engagement. a the leader before it september 11th at a record of videos saying american as i respond. let's go kill more americans. by failing to respond we know who did this attack. we know
the election about going below 8%. and if we go over the cliff, a lot of smart minds are saying we could hit 9.1% unemployment by the end of next year. that sounds devastating. who would be the most impacted by that, do you think? >> well, it's going to be everybody at that point in time. it's going to be small businesses who look at the world and say, i can't afford to invest, i can't afford to have the number of employees that i have because i'm starting to see demand slow down. it's going to be large businesses that are going to suffer from this for the same reason. it's going to hurt our ability to be competitive in the world market because of all this. and so we're going to see potentially a decline in the growth of experts. all these thing its are bad for the country. this is something we have to stop and have to stop quickly. it's in the control of the united states. >> senior partner of the boston consu consulting group, thank you for joining us. happy holidays. >> thank you. ( ♪ ) for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the days when you get a sudden call fro
in the coverup. what the motive was. we know what the motive was, it was the election and obama had been saying he was done with al-qaeda and possibly this was al-qaeda. the i've made different studies of coverups, pentagon, watergate, iran-contra. >> clayton: i've had the pleasure of meeting him over the years and usually a fair-minded person so for him to come out and say this in person, he may have some evidence to show it's credible and may keep pushing forward. a lot of people are not happy the way that benghazi unto folded, that we were caught flat-footed and even though there were military members. >> and specifically what he's referring to, having read the transcript, on thursday there was a senate foreign relations committee asking exactly the same questions they asked on the first day of the benghazi tragedy and that is the cia memo left the cia with the specific references to al-qaeda in it. by the time the memo was presented to susan rice and came out of her mouth on the sunday morning talk shows, those records as to al-qaeda had been spiked, who did that? even after the report, the
elected to office today if you say i'm going to cut this entitlement or restrict that entitlement or restrict or cut that payout to some group or people. i think that's the kiss of death in american politics and therein lies the problem. >> that's going to change, these things need to be done. that's simple math. stuart: what will it take to make us change? >> it's going to take main. pain. a lot of people say it's a man made crisis only because we haven't dealt with the problems youp until now. congress set the deadlines. these could be random and asked around. if we start to see, i mean, we've seen this before, stuart and you know, the summer of 2011 we saw this, fall of 2008 we saw this, took a 5 to 7% drop in the stock market, a big abrupt plunge to get attention in washington and that's when we got action. so you can look in the future and a number of things like that that could happen that would force washington to do something, but we're not there yet. stuart: no, we're not there yet. as you suggest we could roll everything over, agree to keep disagreeing with the current s
on these elections and these are failed, failed policies and that's why the states are losing jobs. you know, instead, redirect those toward more productive uses within the labor force, training workers, keeping them in the work force and keeping them in the state and we don't need another recall like in wisconsin a complete waist of money and union dollars and that's why this is happening. >> toby last word here? >> we're going to see it's a big battle. but this is a battle that iff they win, they lose for the ate of michigan. >> brenda: okay. that's the last word. thank you all and thanks for joining us. so, you think coal is the worst christmas present ever? not here on bulls and bears, why that's all you should want from santa this clear. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast
approved same-sex marriage in november's elections. gay marriage is already legal in d.c. and six other states. >>> regrettable, politically motivated, saddening. these are all statements made by u.s. officials about russia's decision to ban americans from adopting russian children. russian president putin signed the ban into law friday. lawmakers there cite a history of abuse of russian children adopted by american families. however, many believe it was in retaliation against a law that president obama signed that imposes u.s. travel and financial restrictions on human rights abusers in russia. this morning, i spoke with carrie kayhill and asked if the chances of adopteding a 13-year-old boy from daniel in an orphanage in siberia, if she thinks her chances are over. >> i'm ever hopeful that things are going to change. i'm hopeful that better communication between both countries might cause putin to rethink the thing that he just signed. >> how far along were you in this process to adopt him before the ban went into effect? >> well, i'd already met daniel. i had lived over there for a f
is one of 17 american presidents to be elected to a second term, and yet we really understand now in some respects the illusions of the power of the second term president. to have another nominee, perhaps the president's preferred candidate for the pentagon, secretary of defense, premptively challenged is remarkable and extraordinary. one other point that needs to be made regardless of who becomes secretary of defense, barack obama is most withholding president since richard nixon. there's no question about that. all power on the consequential issues of war and peace, afghanistan, iraq, the war on terror, big think strategy in iran, the israeli palestinian peace process, during his first term came in and out of the white house. secretary clinton, we'll never know whether she could be a consequential great secretary of state because the presidential essentially dominates. he does not delegate. and the reality is both at state and defense, the interesting question will be it seems to me on whether or not in the second term the president will allow his national security team to actually help
for elected officials to vote for something when they think it will be the end of their career. dagen: senator, that was, well, terrific conversation. thank you so much. it was great to see you. enjoy your new year. i will hold you to that. okay. i will hold you to it. >> you can count on it. dagen: be well. now, onto something just as troubling, but different. the weather. big storms with freezing rain and high winds is expected from the midwest all the way up into the northeast. now we go to chief meteorologist at whether bell.com. >> it is a bout sore and it is part of what is dancing. each one a little bit further. we have a lot of winter weather coming. it will be shutting down a lot of flights from philadelphia of to boston. they will get hammered later on this afternoon into tonight. philly, new york, baltimore, i do expect it to turn into rain. the snow will pileup northwest of those cities. 30 miles will make a big difference between four to 8 inches of snow and sleet and freezing rain on top of it. that whole major core door right on the battleground, it is almost all snow and up to
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. one of the big secrets during the presidential election, there were a lot of things that the administration kept from the american people. one of the big secrets was that we would hit this debt limit in december. because of the way they have been spending money for that past year. they have $150 trillion in january, remember? we all talked about that. they have blown through in less than a year. that is problem number one, the spending. gerri: it is absolutely a problem. there is no doubt about that. i tell you that the general public is blaming republicans. 61% say it is the fault of your party, the republicans, your party, but we are about to go over this fiscal cliff. what do you say? >> of course they blame republicans. that is what people in washington bureau. let's be realistic about this. the president owns the economy at the end of the day, whether he wants to admit it or not. this is his job. i was there in 2003 in the second round of so-called bush tax policies came to the house. the house house wanted $550 billion in cuts. all they could get was $250 billi
government leading to elections. this meeting coming as new violence erupts between government and rebel forces. that violence has left dozens dead. in fact so far the death toll, it was at 40,000 and it now supposedly topped 45,000. but we are having a meeting this weekend between that u.n. envoy for syria and russia's foreign minister. they will be discussing this plan for a transitional government and we're going to talk more about that right now with fox news military analyst general jack keane, a four-star general and former vice chief of staff of the army. thank you for joining us, general. >> good to be here, patti ann. patti ann: back in june the world powers in geneva came up with this proposal for a unity government. both the assad regime and the opposition rejected it because it would involve the two sides sharing power. now they want to revive the plan but is it desirable? >> the reason simply because assad once he begins to loosen the absolute control of he has of everybody around him in the military he is severely weakened and very vulnerable to being killed even by the peo
there for a week. >> i said, why don't you have anderson what i sexted him on election night? >> she did. send e me dirty messages for david gergen. >> top that, crowley. >> okay. see, and usually i it follow-up really well, but there's just no place to go with sexting david gergen. i'm sorry. there's just not -- >> the most comparesing thing was i actually showed david gergen the messages. because she was pressuring me. >> weird stuff. >> expect bizarre and youd landiland iland outlandish is all i can say, the expressions on the faces is what makes it priceless. i can't wait to see what they have up their sleeve. >> interesting. what do you have new year's eve? >> well my birthday is new year's day. my parents are coming into town. we're going to a party. it's all fun. and you are getting ready for -- >> what else? the fiscal cliff. a fiscal cliff special coming up new year's day. i have to go to bed early. too bad. >> sorry. >>> the next hour of "cnn saturday morning" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning, everyone. i'm alison kosik. >> and i'm chp cristi paul.
, this is an unbelievable situation because it's been, what, five or six weeks since the election. abc it's amazing that they are still as far apart today from getting a deal as they were when we first started talking about this. if we do go over the cliff. by the way i agree with peter. i still there is a slim chance at getting something done next week before new year's eve. but if we don't get that deal, we're talking about a very major tax increase. not just on people like warren buffet and bill gates but middle class folks. by my calculations if you look at all the taxes that are going up. if we go over the cliff you are talking about if you are a middle class family earning between 45 and $75,000 your tax bill will go up $2,500 a year. >> we have some of these statistics by category here on the screen. this is modern. from zero dollars to $20,000. you are still going to get hit. 400 bucks, stephan. that's no small amount. >> no. just to intervene that's because the payroll tax. payroll tax reduction that also is scheduled to go up next year as well. even lower income people will get hit. no qu
some leverage because he won the election but i thought both sides had and they were very close to a deal, gregg. that is the crazy thing here. they were very close. we had implosions in terms of the boehner leadership unable to hold his troops together. gregg: right. >> these guys are close. i think at this point, part of the negotiating dynamic is if we get close to the i have cliff you can get the troops to line up behind you and say, don't do it. that is terrible for the american people. that is bad way to run the government. gregg: mary katherine, no way to run a government but we've been saying that for 200 years. and i have too. but, mary katherine, look, what does it say about boehner's leadership, when he can't even get a vote on his own plan? >> no, i think that was a good opportunity for republicans to pass something. i think many of them made a mistake in foiling that plan because i think it was a decent one that had good points even though they obviously didn't get everything they wanted. i still think this could go either way. you guys point out this is no way to r
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